Can mild kickboxing cause permanent knee problems or pain?For the past 2 weeks, I added some mild kickboxing to my aerobics. No jumping, just some front and side kicks. I notice when I lay down, my knees hurt when I lay on my sides. Is this just do to weakness or is this damaging my knees. The past 2 mos. I also added lunges/squats. Thanks in advance.
- SiFu frank
If you are not being coached by a trained or knowledgeable trainer/ instructor You can and probably will cause repetitive motion injury to your joints at some point in your training. Lunges are frequently a problem for your knees if not done properly. The knee in a lunge should never be farther than vertically above your ankle. Squats should never be all the way down either. Stop a squat just a little below having the thighs vertical . Kicks no mater which direction need to be done from a raised knee and than shot out. Whipping the kick and hyper-extending the knee delivers a less powerful kick and can damage the knee joint. Kicks at full force should always be to a bag ot suitably padded opponent.
I recommend you discontinue the kicks and lunges until the pain subsides and than by all means continue with some one to help you do these moves correctly. Please do not think you can learn this from some video. A video is useful after you know what you are doing to give you focus and some form for your work outs.
Additionally punching can also damage the elbow joints as well if not done correctly. These kind of injuries are more likely to occur in people who use kicks and punches as workouts without proper guidance.
- shaolin2684
Your Answer:
There are several factors which make it difficult to answer your question. First, without seeing what you are calling "kick boxing" and what type of jumping you are doing, not to mention your pre-stretching routines and after-stretching routines, it is difficult to say. But let's start with some basics.
Before you work out, for every hour of aerobics that you are doing, you should be doing 10-12 minutes of overall stretches before you start the aerobics portion. Every body part that you are going to use should be stretched using a combination of ballistic and static stretches. The same goes for your cool down part. Finish with the same stretches that you began with. Without these stretches, you are certainly going to be doing accummulative damage to your muscles, ligaments, tendons and joints.
Finally, when you practice these "kick boxing" maneuvers, make sure that you are not locking your knees. Do what we call a 179. A straight line is 180 degrees. So, do not lock the knee when you kick. Leave it slightly un-locked, that is, 179 degrees. Never slam a joint to its fully locked position, as that will leave you with damage later on.
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- tre_494
simply put: alot of times this is inherent in the martial arts but otherwise other factors would come into play; like whether your stance or form is wrong or how much force you put behind it. for the past 3yrs my knees still hurt and i was criticized for my near perfect forms. it's a problem most martial artists have.
- Shihan J
The simple answer is yes. Any martial art can cause injury (even tai chi) if you are not training correctly, or you have inexperienced teacher. It could even be your warm up routes are insufficient or not enough.
When kicking or punching in the air its important you keep your joints bent and do not lock them out. This is one of the first thinks I drill into my newer students.
Striking a heavy bag is different your energy is going into the bag. When you not hitting anything you have nothing to stop the momentum of your movement and its more likely you will hyper extend the joint.
There are many factors that can cause this issue. But I think its more likely you full kick locking out your joint and hyper extend it.
Most martial arts have need problems because of poor training or poor instructors. My knees have gotten a lot better over the past 20 years because of one particular instructor I had. His saying was basically "martial arts is suppose to make you stronger not cause self inflicted injures. If you feel pain because of your work out then your technique is wrong"
Sifu Frank made several valid points as well. And you should follow his advice.
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